betts. i don't know, but you can take a look at a company like jk penny with ron johnson. even every retailer, except one, who said give this guy more time. but usually the short-termism is a problem. you can see that the advisory firms, they have these ridiculous metrics for one year and three year barometers. it takes two or three years to fully take charge of this. and i think you're right, steve, the metrics are too short. sometimes if they are on a misguided path, we can correct it. vickram pandit, i frankly thought was mercuriel and imperious when he first stepped in there. he grew enormously in office. maria bartiromo had a tremendous interview with him. i thought he was defensive, yet his board understood him. board politics. >> i look forward to seeing you at the yale ceo summit. >> hi, dave. you should have run. joe is right, you should have run. >> we've already made him a czar. >> you end up consulting with a lot of ceos, a lot of corporate boards. from your perspective, what impact is the fiscal cliff having with regard to the situation? we've seen today a number of spec